Comments on: HTC Advantage: The Ultimate Pocket PC Phone http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/ Paul Nolan of Idruna Software blogs about Phojo Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:18:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Paul Nolan http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-7890 Paul Nolan Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:10:52 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-7890 As I stressed in my G900 review, a lot of the bad press was from the original firmware, which to Toshiba's credit, they did update. As I stressed in my G900 review, a lot of the bad press was from the original firmware, which to Toshiba’s credit, they did update.

]]> By: mlambert890 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-7889 mlambert890 Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:59:32 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-7889 did you end up with the G900? Curious as to comparos. I hear nothing but bad things about it. I ended up going with an Advantage as it seemed like a safer overall package than the G, but USB host isnt really on my needs list. Its a shame that these OEMs are throwing together great hardware (ATI chip, NVidia chip, USB host, etc) but then not bothering to integrate or support it properly. did you end up with the G900? Curious as to comparos. I hear nothing but bad things about it. I ended up going with an Advantage as it seemed like a safer overall package than the G, but USB host isnt really on my needs list.

Its a shame that these OEMs are throwing together great hardware (ATI chip, NVidia chip, USB host, etc) but then not bothering to integrate or support it properly.

]]> By: Paul Nolan http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-7415 Paul Nolan Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:23:33 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-7415 I`m sad too, I`ve been recommending Ebaying the Advantage and using the proceeds to buy the Toshiba G900 for people who want USB host support. I just added driver support for the Canon 40D, which hopefully means the Mark III will work too now. I`m sad too, I`ve been recommending Ebaying the Advantage and using the proceeds to buy the Toshiba G900 for people who want USB host support. I just added driver support for the Canon 40D, which hopefully means the Mark III will work too now.

]]> By: Tito http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-7414 Tito Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:56:17 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-7414 Hey Paul, any update on broken usb host? Iam using x7500(and Phojo!) with great succes but iam sad usb host doesnt work? Yours trully, Tito Hey Paul,
any update on broken usb host?
Iam using x7500(and Phojo!) with great succes
but iam sad usb host doesnt work?
Yours trully,
Tito

]]> By: Paul Nolan http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5033 Paul Nolan Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:19:00 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5033 WFT-E2 support requires the latest beta, drop me an email and I`ll send you the link. WFT-E2 support requires the latest beta, drop me an email and I`ll send you the link.

]]> By: Tito http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5032 Tito Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:08:44 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5032 Well as long as the card reader works its fine if you ask me, i have to try my 1d mark III with the new Canon wifi adapter, did you try it already Paul? Htx x7500 seems to work great and is very stable not to mention the huge display and keyboard. Yours trully, Tito Well as long as the card reader works its fine if you ask me,
i have to try my 1d mark III with the new Canon wifi adapter,
did you try it already Paul? Htx x7500 seems to work great and is very stable not to mention the huge display and keyboard.
Yours trully,
Tito

]]> By: Paul Nolan http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5029 Paul Nolan Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:04:34 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5029 The Advantage does work with card readers, but powered devices such as cameras fail. Kick up as much fuss with HTC as you can until they acknowledge the USB support does not work properly. Hakan received a Toshiba G900 and reported the USB host port works properly. I have one arriving next week, I`ll be posting a review then, and will probably recommend selling the Advantage for the G900 (in Europe at least). The Advantage does work with card readers, but powered devices such as cameras fail. Kick up as much fuss with HTC as you can until they acknowledge the USB support does not work properly. Hakan received a Toshiba G900 and reported the USB host port works properly. I have one arriving next week, I`ll be posting a review then, and will probably recommend selling the Advantage for the G900 (in Europe at least).

]]> By: Steve Hoge http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5027 Steve Hoge Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:12:44 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5027 I have the (expensive) USB host/VGA/composite/SVideo cable from HTC and I have not been able to get my x7500 running WM6 to talk successfully to my Lumix (Panasonic) FZ18 camera. I get tantalizing bits of evidence that it is on the verge of working, but it is very flaky and intermittent. Typically, when the camera is plugged into the HTC USB cable the camera displays "Connecting To PC", and about one out of 10 times I get the intermediate "Access" message, then the "lightning bolt" icon on the camera's screen that it normally displays when successfully connected to a USB host. Various combinations of power cycling, hibernating, plugging and unplugging of cables is usually required to hit this one-in-ten jackpot. Once it's at that stage, there's an additional 50% (or less) chance that when browsing with File Explorer, I will see the camera appear in the pulldown list of mass storage devices as "Hard Disk". However, if I select Hard Disk to browse, the machine either freezes or I get WM6's spinning umbrella of death. One time - once! - as it was unfreezing I saw a brief list of the camera's DCIM and other directories before the machine locked up again. So close! I'd be interested to try a card reader, but honestly it would be easier to pop the miniSD card out of the camera and insert it into the x7500. I have the (expensive) USB host/VGA/composite/SVideo cable from HTC and I have not been able to get my x7500 running WM6 to talk successfully to my Lumix (Panasonic) FZ18 camera. I get tantalizing bits of evidence that it is on the verge of working, but it is very flaky and intermittent.

Typically, when the camera is plugged into the HTC USB cable the camera displays “Connecting To PC”, and about one out of 10 times I get the intermediate “Access” message, then the “lightning bolt” icon on the camera’s screen that it normally displays when successfully connected to a USB host. Various combinations of power cycling, hibernating, plugging and unplugging of cables is usually required to hit this one-in-ten jackpot.

Once it’s at that stage, there’s an additional 50% (or less) chance that when browsing with File Explorer, I will see the camera appear in the pulldown list of mass storage devices as “Hard Disk”. However, if I select Hard Disk to browse, the machine either freezes or I get WM6’s spinning umbrella of death. One time - once! - as it was unfreezing I saw a brief list of the camera’s DCIM and other directories before the machine locked up again. So close!

I’d be interested to try a card reader, but honestly it would be easier to pop the miniSD card out of the camera and insert it into the x7500.

]]> By: Tito http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5024 Tito Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:39:03 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-5024 Hey Paul, does usb host work with card readers? CF preffered? I just bought it and usb host cable was missing ill report how it works. I also own a hp hx 4700 and htc x7500 has much better display. I hope the usb hosting works with cf reader. Yours trully, TK Hey Paul,
does usb host work with card readers? CF preffered?
I just bought it and usb host cable was missing ill report
how it works. I also own a hp hx 4700 and htc x7500 has much better display. I hope the usb hosting works with cf reader.
Yours trully,
TK

]]> By: Paul Nolan http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-4863 Paul Nolan Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:22:19 +0000 http://blog.pocketphojo.com/2007/05/05/htc-advantage-the-ultimate-pocket-pc-phone/#comment-4863 Extremely disappointing news I`m afraid. I sent my Advantage to the company that provides the USB tools I use, and they used a USB analyzer to further pinpoint the problem. It seems that the Advantage just does not work properly with powered devices. The simplest test that demonstrates this is to hard reset, and plug in a USB device such as a camera or printer. You should see a message saying "Unknown USB Device". This is good. Now cancel the message, unplug the device, and plug it back in again. No message will appear. This is bad, as it indicates the Advantage's USB stack is locking up. Unfortunately, the only company that can fix this is HTC, so get emailing, the more people who report the problem, the slightly greater chance they might fix it. Alternative devices that I have not yet tested are the new Toshiba G900, and and XDA Flame. If anyone gets hold of one before I do, please let me know! The T830 also works of course. Extremely disappointing news I`m afraid. I sent my Advantage to the company that provides the USB tools I use, and they used a USB analyzer to further pinpoint the problem. It seems that the Advantage just does not work properly with powered devices. The simplest test that demonstrates this is to hard reset, and plug in a USB device such as a camera or printer. You should see a message saying “Unknown USB Device”. This is good. Now cancel the message, unplug the device, and plug it back in again. No message will appear. This is bad, as it indicates the Advantage’s USB stack is locking up. Unfortunately, the only company that can fix this is HTC, so get emailing, the more people who report the problem, the slightly greater chance they might fix it.

Alternative devices that I have not yet tested are the new Toshiba G900, and and XDA Flame. If anyone gets hold of one before I do, please let me know! The T830 also works of course.

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